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The Second Discourse on Ascetics and Brahmins
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He was dwelling at Sāvatthī, etc.
"Whatever ascetics or brahmins, monks, who do not understand these phenomena, do not understand the origin of these phenomena, do not understand the cessation of these phenomena, do not understand the practice leading to the cessation of these phenomena, which phenomena do they not understand, of which phenomena do they not understand the origin, of which phenomena do they not understand the cessation, of which phenomena do they not understand the practice leading to cessation?"
"They do not understand ageing and death, do not understand the origin of ageing and death, do not understand the cessation of ageing and death, do not understand the practice leading to the cessation of ageing and death; birth... etc. existence... clinging... craving... feeling... contact... the six sense bases... mentality-materiality... consciousness... they do not understand activities, do not understand the origin of activities, do not understand the cessation of activities, do not understand the practice leading to the cessation of activities. They do not understand these phenomena, do not understand the origin of these phenomena, do not understand the cessation of these phenomena, do not understand the practice leading to the cessation of these phenomena. They are not for me, monks, ascetics or brahmins who are considered ascetics among ascetics or considered brahmins among brahmins; and those venerable ones do not dwell having attained the goal of asceticism or the goal of the holy life in this very life, having realised by direct knowledge themselves.
"But whatever ascetics or brahmins, monks, who understand these phenomena, understand the origin of these phenomena, understand the cessation of these phenomena, understand the practice leading to the cessation of these phenomena, which phenomena do they understand, of which phenomena do they understand the origin, of which phenomena do they understand the cessation, of which phenomena do they understand the practice leading to cessation?
"They understand ageing and death, understand the origin of ageing and death, understand the cessation of ageing and death, understand the practice leading to the cessation of ageing and death; birth... etc. existence... clinging... craving... feeling... contact... the six sense bases... mentality-materiality... consciousness... they understand activities, understand the origin of activities, understand the cessation of activities, understand the practice leading to the cessation of activities. They understand these phenomena, understand the origin of these phenomena, understand the cessation of these phenomena, understand the practice leading to the cessation of these phenomena. They are for me, monks, ascetics or brahmins who are considered ascetics among ascetics and considered brahmins among brahmins. And those venerable ones dwell having attained the goal of asceticism and the goal of the holy life in this very life, having realised by direct knowledge themselves." The fourth.