{"id":9739,"date":"2026-11-10T18:05:03","date_gmt":"2026-11-10T16:05:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.paliverse.org\/podcasts\/lohiccha-sutta-dn12-the-discourse-to-lohiccha-what-can-one-person-do-for-another\/"},"modified":"2026-11-10T18:05:03","modified_gmt":"2026-11-10T16:05:03","slug":"lohiccha-sutta-dn12-the-discourse-to-lohiccha-what-can-one-person-do-for-another","status":"publish","type":"pal_podcast","link":"https:\/\/www.paliverse.org\/el\/podcasts\/lohiccha-sutta-dn12-the-discourse-to-lohiccha-what-can-one-person-do-for-another\/","title":{"rendered":"Lohicca Sutta (DN12): The Discourse to Lohicca \u2014 What Can One Person Do for Another?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If you discovered something that genuinely transformed your mind\u2014something that made you calmer, wiser, and freer\u2014should you share it with others? Or should you keep it entirely to yourself?<\/p>\n<p>The brahmin Lohicca believed that anyone who attained a wholesome state should tell no one. What can one person possibly do for another? Teaching, he argued, merely creates a new bondage after the old one has been cut. But when the Buddha arrives in Lohicca\u2019s village, he does not answer this belief with a sermon. He uses Lohicca\u2019s own wealth, his own village, and his own king to lead him through a chain of questions\u2014until Lohicca himself is forced to recognise what lies beneath his view. Withholding what is good is not detachment. When it obstructs the welfare of others, it is hostility.<\/p>\n<p>Then the discourse turns to a more uncomfortable question: when does a teacher deserve blame? The Buddha describes three kinds of teachers who fail. One has not reached the goal, and his disciples refuse to listen. Another has not reached the goal, although his disciples follow him. A third has reached the goal, but his disciples turn away. Three possibilities are examined\u2014and one is deliberately left unspoken. Lohicca must ask about it himself: is there any teacher in the world who is beyond accusation?<\/p>\n<p>The Buddha\u2019s answer presents the fourth possibility: a teacher who has completed his own work and whose disciples, by listening and practising, attain the fruits of the path for themselves. The discourse therefore answers both sides of its central question. A teacher cannot practise for another person\u2014but through right teaching, one person can show another the way. The hearer must still listen, apply the mind, and walk the path.<\/p>\n<p>Lohicca finally describes what has happened to him in unforgettable words. He was like a man falling into a hellish precipice who was seized, pulled upward, and placed on firm ground. The ancient commentary explains the image precisely: the hand that pulled him to safety was the Teaching itself.<\/p>\n<p>This episode also explores the commentaries\u2019 deeper explanations: why Lohicca\u2019s opinion was considered evil, how repeated wrong view becomes firmly fixed, who the \u201cdivine embryos\u201d were, why the Buddha initially concealed the fourth kind of teacher, and what separates a blameworthy teacher from one who rightly guides others toward liberation.<\/p>\n<p>Read the Lohicca Sutta (DN12) in all three traditional layers\u2014the canonical text, commentary, and sub-commentary\u2014and ask your own questions at <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/paliverse.org\">paliverse.org<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Support this work: <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.paliverse.org\/donation\/\">paliverse.org\/donation<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Topics: Lohicca Sutta (DN 12) \u00b7 D\u012bgha Nik\u0101ya \/ Digha Nikaya \u00b7 Long Discourses of the Buddha \u00b7 P\u0101li Canon \u00b7 Therav\u0101da Buddhism \u00b7 sharing the Dhamma \u00b7 what makes a good teacher \u00b7 wrong view \u00b7 compassion and teaching<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you discovered something that genuinely transformed your mind\u2014something that made you calmer, wiser, and freer\u2014should you share it with others? 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